RenPlastinaRen Plastina of Investec joins us to talk about energy storage and electric vehicles and how to be a first mover in both markets. He gets into energy storage from the standpoint of a lender, what is going on in the market and whether lenders are seeing deals that can actually be financed, as well as how the traditional project finance model can be used for EV charging infrastructure, a market that is still in the formative stages.